<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><!-- generator="wordpress/2.0.4" -->
<rss version="2.0" 
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/">
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: If You Meet The Truth, Kill It</title>
	<link>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/1312</link>
	<description>David Hayward is an artist trapped inside a pastor's body.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4</generator>

	<item>
		<title>by: GC</title>
		<link>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/1312#comment-26179</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/1312#comment-26179</guid>
					<description>Truth is exclusive by definition. 

If a statement is true, it will have to exclude any statements that contradicts it.

Truth  does not depend on belief or faith. It must align with reality.

Belief is a choice based on our faith or trust. It is dependent on the character of the believer &#38; the object of faith. 

A strong belief does not necessary means it that it is true but does demonstrate strong faith &#38;/or a faith object or person that is high reliable.

 Truth needs to be determine and reason out based on reliable evidence

Doing otherwise will lead to self deception &#38; in some cases fatal decisions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth is exclusive by definition. </p>
<p>If a statement is true, it will have to exclude any statements that contradicts it.</p>
<p>Truth  does not depend on belief or faith. It must align with reality.</p>
<p>Belief is a choice based on our faith or trust. It is dependent on the character of the believer &amp; the object of faith. </p>
<p>A strong belief does not necessary means it that it is true but does demonstrate strong faith &amp;/or a faith object or person that is high reliable.</p>
<p> Truth needs to be determine and reason out based on reliable evidence</p>
<p>Doing otherwise will lead to self deception &amp; in some cases fatal decisions
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: fishon</title>
		<link>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/1312#comment-15936</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/1312#comment-15936</guid>
					<description>jonbirch,
Good morning. I was out in the Wheat fields all day, yesterday, so couldn't write back as quick as I said I would. 

Your last sentence to me makes me laugh. You said: "...i just wonder whether you could maybe throw some light on what the score is?)." Ah, jon, I CAN'T throw much light on anything. I am just a lonely, small-time pastor out in the middle of wheat fields with very little education and lots of opinions that I firmly believe are right. Jon, I am NOT going to be able to give much light. But I will try and answer your questions.

QUESTION #1--What do you mean by truth?

ANSWER--Back to the "nakedpastor" article--He is talking about Packaging and the contents of the pack--and the subject, as best I can tell is the Bible--with packaging as secondary. So, the truth I am talking about is "biblical truth[s]." Packageing [methodology] of biblical truth will ALWAYS change--but Bible truths NEVER change. Now man may try and move the truth, and societies may embrace the moved truth, but that doesn't change the truth.  

EXAMPLE: Ah, one that raises hackels these days. Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."  Now, either that is TRUE or it is not. Jesus gave no alternative. Now men who know more than God [sarcasm] decide they don't like that saying, and it doesn't fit in their thinking, so off they go and write books and develope a following of other people who don't like the truth of what Jesus said. In fact, they can convince the majority of the people they are right, but the truth [biblical] is not up for majority vote. 

I once knew of a girl on LSD who was sure that she could fly. And so she made the attempt off a waterfall from about 100 ft. up. She was told she could not do it and live. She didn't. The truth involved there was gravity, missing the water and flying into bolders. 

The truth involved with John 14:6 involves the honesty of Jesus. Either He is telling THE TRUTH or a lie--again, he gave no alternatives. I believe He meant what He said, and that He is who He says He is. 

Like that girl who was wrong and could not fly--those who decide that Jesus' words are not true--HAD BETTER BE RIGHT!

Listen, I know I don't write well, and may not have expressed in a way you can understand--not necessarily agree with, so I won't write any more because I may be wasting your's and my time. However, if you want me to continue, let me know and I will. 

By the way, I will not be responding to anyone else about what I wrote because that only turns into a messing debate.
MAKE IT A GREAT DAY.
fishon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jonbirch,<br />
Good morning. I was out in the Wheat fields all day, yesterday, so couldn&#8217;t write back as quick as I said I would. </p>
<p>Your last sentence to me makes me laugh. You said: &#8220;&#8230;i just wonder whether you could maybe throw some light on what the score is?).&#8221; Ah, jon, I CAN&#8217;T throw much light on anything. I am just a lonely, small-time pastor out in the middle of wheat fields with very little education and lots of opinions that I firmly believe are right. Jon, I am NOT going to be able to give much light. But I will try and answer your questions.</p>
<p>QUESTION #1&#8211;What do you mean by truth?</p>
<p>ANSWER&#8211;Back to the &#8220;nakedpastor&#8221; article&#8211;He is talking about Packaging and the contents of the pack&#8211;and the subject, as best I can tell is the Bible&#8211;with packaging as secondary. So, the truth I am talking about is &#8220;biblical truth[s].&#8221; Packageing [methodology] of biblical truth will ALWAYS change&#8211;but Bible truths NEVER change. Now man may try and move the truth, and societies may embrace the moved truth, but that doesn&#8217;t change the truth.  </p>
<p>EXAMPLE: Ah, one that raises hackels these days. Jesus said, &#8220;I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.&#8221;  Now, either that is TRUE or it is not. Jesus gave no alternative. Now men who know more than God [sarcasm] decide they don&#8217;t like that saying, and it doesn&#8217;t fit in their thinking, so off they go and write books and develope a following of other people who don&#8217;t like the truth of what Jesus said. In fact, they can convince the majority of the people they are right, but the truth [biblical] is not up for majority vote. </p>
<p>I once knew of a girl on LSD who was sure that she could fly. And so she made the attempt off a waterfall from about 100 ft. up. She was told she could not do it and live. She didn&#8217;t. The truth involved there was gravity, missing the water and flying into bolders. </p>
<p>The truth involved with John 14:6 involves the honesty of Jesus. Either He is telling THE TRUTH or a lie&#8211;again, he gave no alternatives. I believe He meant what He said, and that He is who He says He is. </p>
<p>Like that girl who was wrong and could not fly&#8211;those who decide that Jesus&#8217; words are not true&#8211;HAD BETTER BE RIGHT!</p>
<p>Listen, I know I don&#8217;t write well, and may not have expressed in a way you can understand&#8211;not necessarily agree with, so I won&#8217;t write any more because I may be wasting your&#8217;s and my time. However, if you want me to continue, let me know and I will. </p>
<p>By the way, I will not be responding to anyone else about what I wrote because that only turns into a messing debate.<br />
MAKE IT A GREAT DAY.<br />
fishon
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Dena G</title>
		<link>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/1312#comment-15892</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/1312#comment-15892</guid>
					<description>@ fishon--To answer your questions, I'm from a fundamentalist background myself.  I spent the first 30 or so years of my life not only believing I had most of the answers but also actively condemning those whose lifestyles/answers didn't line up with mine...and I really only "loved" those who looked like me--no grace for anyone else.  If they didn't act like me (perfect, that is...), they were wrong.  And worthy of God's wrath.  I spent a lot of time lashing out at people with my favorite weapon--Scripture that fit the occasion/sin.

Then my "perfect" little life fell apart--all the things for which I had condemned "those other people out there" (addictions, affairs, divorce, abortion, homosexuality--the so-called "biggies" of the sin world) suddenly became a part of my world, but it wasn't "those people out there" anymore.  I was one of them now.

When it became that personal, I latched onto God's grace and mercy...more accurately, I collapsed and fell into it. And I began to learn what it means to "speak the truth in love".  That's it in a nutshell, I guess.

Hope that answered your question--thanks for offering me a "safe" place to answer...I'm not opposed to debate, but I'd prefer to not do it here. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ fishon&#8211;To answer your questions, I&#8217;m from a fundamentalist background myself.  I spent the first 30 or so years of my life not only believing I had most of the answers but also actively condemning those whose lifestyles/answers didn&#8217;t line up with mine&#8230;and I really only &#8220;loved&#8221; those who looked like me&#8211;no grace for anyone else.  If they didn&#8217;t act like me (perfect, that is&#8230;), they were wrong.  And worthy of God&#8217;s wrath.  I spent a lot of time lashing out at people with my favorite weapon&#8211;Scripture that fit the occasion/sin.</p>
<p>Then my &#8220;perfect&#8221; little life fell apart&#8211;all the things for which I had condemned &#8220;those other people out there&#8221; (addictions, affairs, divorce, abortion, homosexuality&#8211;the so-called &#8220;biggies&#8221; of the sin world) suddenly became a part of my world, but it wasn&#8217;t &#8220;those people out there&#8221; anymore.  I was one of them now.</p>
<p>When it became that personal, I latched onto God&#8217;s grace and mercy&#8230;more accurately, I collapsed and fell into it. And I began to learn what it means to &#8220;speak the truth in love&#8221;.  That&#8217;s it in a nutshell, I guess.</p>
<p>Hope that answered your question&#8211;thanks for offering me a &#8220;safe&#8221; place to answer&#8230;I&#8217;m not opposed to debate, but I&#8217;d prefer to not do it here. <img src='http://nakedpastor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: jonbirch</title>
		<link>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/1312#comment-15860</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/1312#comment-15860</guid>
					<description>thank you dorsey :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you dorsey <img src='http://nakedpastor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
</channel>
</rss>
