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	<title>Comments on: leadership and torture</title>
	<link>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/58</link>
	<description>david hayward is an artist trapped inside an pastor's body</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Richard</title>
		<link>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/58#comment-126</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 04:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Do I read in this article and responses a comparison between the communist takeover of China (or Cambodia or Hungary )and the church when leadership is abused? If so, should we not be careful in our cricism? Speak to those from those countries to hear the difference.
If safe guards are required, then guidelines or rules are required. Once they are in place,then what happens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I read in this article and responses a comparison between the communist takeover of China (or Cambodia or Hungary )and the church when leadership is abused? If so, should we not be careful in our cricism? Speak to those from those countries to hear the difference.<br />
If safe guards are required, then guidelines or rules are required. Once they are in place,then what happens?
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		<title>by: Marilyn Singh</title>
		<link>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/58#comment-120</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As you point out David the shifts to seizing power are so subtle at first.  My personal bias is that in most church cultures this shift of power in the hands of leaders has become acceptable church culture.  What safeguards can we put in place that don't violate the values and benefits of spiritual leadership?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you point out David the shifts to seizing power are so subtle at first.  My personal bias is that in most church cultures this shift of power in the hands of leaders has become acceptable church culture.  What safeguards can we put in place that don&#8217;t violate the values and benefits of spiritual leadership?
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		<title>by: David Hayward</title>
		<link>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/58#comment-118</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The problem begins, doesn't it, in the "seizing" of it. No, even earlier, in the simple desire for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem begins, doesn&#8217;t it, in the &#8220;seizing&#8221; of it. No, even earlier, in the simple desire for it.
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		<title>by: Brian Metzger</title>
		<link>http://nakedpastor.com/archives/58#comment-115</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Best of all is the phrase those who sieze authority like to use:
"It's for your own good."

We would like to crank out a predictable product when really it's more like planting a garden, no two plants grow the same, need exactly the same thing or respond exactly the same way to similar stimulus.

It's like at any church meeting, small group or otherwise, where we ask/tell people to sit down and get quiet so we can now have some fellowship.  We kill the natural and then put plastic plants in their place.

Thank God he has a soft spot for fools and little children!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best of all is the phrase those who sieze authority like to use:<br />
&#8220;It&#8217;s for your own good.&#8221;</p>
<p>We would like to crank out a predictable product when really it&#8217;s more like planting a garden, no two plants grow the same, need exactly the same thing or respond exactly the same way to similar stimulus.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like at any church meeting, small group or otherwise, where we ask/tell people to sit down and get quiet so we can now have some fellowship.  We kill the natural and then put plastic plants in their place.</p>
<p>Thank God he has a soft spot for fools and little children!
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