Sorry Hell is Closed

"Hell is Closed" cartoon by nakedpastor David Hayward

“Hell is Closed” cartoon by nakedpastor David Hayward

If you’re starting to question your beliefs then you need to join the rest of us. Don’t be afraid!

Old and popular mythologies die hard.

The thing is, if one myth falls into question, why shouldn’t the others?

For example, if there is no Hell, then is there a Heaven?

And if there is no Heaven or Hell, is there an afterlife?

And if there isn’t an afterlife, is there a god who rewards or punishes us with one?

You see where I’m going with this.

Once you invite any doubts or entertain any questions about any part of your theology, you’re allowing the thin end of the wedge entry into your worldview.

Be prepared to see how deep the rabbit-hole goes.

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19 Responses

  1. Charles Miller says:

    Thing is, “belief” is not the same thing as Faith. People “believe” all sorts of nonsense, and their “beliefs” are subject to change on a regular basis (listen to any John Kerry speech, in which he begins every other paragraph with “I believe…” followed by his belief of the week. And, yes, John Kerry’s beliefs do a 180-degree turn every week). Faith, on the other hand, is a transcendent “knowing” that cannot be assailed and needn’t be defended. If people are questioning “belief,” that’s common, because belief is cheap and transient. If they question their Faith, however, then they never had Faith.

  2. Jeff says:

    That response told me everything I need to know about you.

  3. You know everything you need to know about me? You mean you know everything you want to know about me.

  4. Gary says:

    I love the old line of reasoning which says if you ever question you were never a true person of faith to begin with. It is such a self serving load of crap. I know because I used to say it myself.

  5. Brigitte says:

    Psalm 94. “Does the one who made the ear not hear?”

    Does righteousness and justice not matter anymore either? — Where does it end? What is the end game?

  6. Gary says:

    Brigitte, These are great questions for consideration. But like most great questions, they represent the beginning of a journey not the end.

    I have spent the majority of my life in churches which used such questions in a way to suggest that there can only be one possible conclusion. I now recognize that such teaching is the true heresy.

  7. Brigitte says:

    How can the word “heresy” have any meaning, Gary, in the way you present it. When everyone is on a journey on all the issues, what can possibly be a “heresy”. The word has been emptied completely of its meaning.

    This morning, I had an article in my thread, that discussed that the next “progressive” frontier is the normalizing of paedophilia. There are people with academic papers that discuss that the societal inhibitions and revulsion against it and that they can be broken down on moral and esthetic grounds. Given enough time and propaganda, people will learn to accept it dispite their initial revulsion.

    Then one author says something about watching pornography with obese people having sex and how some people find it unaestetic. This is offered as an analogy.–Hardly works, if you ask me. It also makes me think about people who watch pornography (we know it’s rampant, but personally I am. It tempted), and then compare the aesthetic qualities of the experience. Weird.

    Anyways, Gary, do you think, we should go down this unexplored journey, or should we just say that paedophilia is wrong. Many times, children go along with it because they get some enjoyment also, and often some other benefits, such as in the relationships with the sugar daddies, passing HIV to all the very young girls (who are at the moment and for the moment, very aesthetically pleasing).

    No. You cannot escape questions of right and wrong.

  8. Gary says:

    Brigitte…your “analogies” (If that’s what you want to try to call them) are absurd and really bear no resemblance to my point. And if the slippery slope of moral relativism is some how your argument, it is very typical to jump right to the extreme of pedophilia as if it is in any way related. You totally miss my point and instead respond to your false interpretation of it when you assume that I don’t believe in right or wrong.

  9. Brigitte says:

    Ok, let’s say I did not understand. Can you explain it to me better?

  10. Gary says:

    Sure. The cartoon is about a place called Hell which I do not believe exists. However I do (like you) most certainly believe in right and wrong and the need for justice. The questions you quoted and posed start a conversation about how we deal with justice and right and wrong. My point is simple…I do not believe those questions are any type of proof of heaven, hell, or the afterlife. (Some of which I still believe in BTW)

  11. Brigitte says:

    Things we cannot see, are not provable, in essence, that is true, but some things press themselves into our spirit intuitively. So, we do revolt against certain injustices and expect guilt and punishment for them. Certain shame -based societies seem to over-do it with this. Nevertheless an internal conscience did come to us from somewhere.

  12. Gary says:

    I don’t disagree that an internal conscience did come to us from somewhere. In fact I believe it is God given. Those who reject the notion of a deity however could say that it is an evolutionary development in that groups who become societies have a far greater likelihood of success and survival with the basic understanding of things like right and wrong and justice. Literally it can be argued it is a trait that plays quite well into the survival of the fittest theory. Since I also believe in Theistic Evolution I have no problem with that.

    So I have come to realize that most of the time when a a question is presented as an answer it is most likely disingenuous in masquerading as a question to begin with and the intent is really to stop questions rather than engage them.

  13. Brigitte says:

    Sounds like a round about way to shut down discussion, Gary.

  14. Gary says:

    What a very strange response to my comment. I guess if you don’t like my view there is not any other way for you to engage than to make a silly declaration in hopes of ending the discussion?

  15. Brigitte says:

    Did you not just label questions regarding your views as masquerading disingenuity?

  16. Gary says:

    Absolutely not. I labeled questions masquerading as answers to be disingenuous. My personal “views” had nothing to do with it.

  17. Gary says:

    Or more accurately I should say answers masquerading as questions.

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