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What came first? The chicken or the egg? What came first? The thug or the theology? I read Tony Jones' thoughts on Mark Driscoll.
Jones has always admired Driscoll, maybe envies him a little, wants the best for him, believes he can be redeemed, and suggests that things can be restored.
What I found most interesting though is that Jones believes the problem with Driscoll is theological.
That is, did Driscoll become the focus of concern because of his theology? Or was it because of his behavior?
I'm concerned that Jones' post reflects the refusal of the church to understand spiritual abuse. It neglects the pathology of its abusive leaders. I don't think this is being fair to the victims or the perpetrators of spiritual abuse. People are victims of not just a bad theology, but a pathological cruelty.
I don't think Driscoll's theology made this happen. Driscoll "embraced" his toxic version of theology because it aligned with his moral compass. It fit his personality. It worked for him to achieve his goals. Then it manifested the worst in him. Then he continued to develop his toxic theology in order to make more room for his pathological behavior. Mars Hill Church too.
Jones' sentence, "It could have happened to any of us." is true, because I believe we all participate in this dynamic. Theology is our creation. It is a reflection of our drives and desires.
Then, not satisfied to only be the product of our drives and desires, it also becomes the producer of them. Theology is a vicious cycle of our desperate need to understand and control our universe.
Step into this cycle at any point and you can see that we are both the root and fruit of our theology and pathology.
And yes, it spins out of control by manifesting itself in toxic, controlling, and abusive behavior. Nothing can be done about bad theology because of free thought and speech.
But we can do something when this manifests itself in bad behavior. Cruel theology is a nuisance. Cruel behavior is unacceptable.
When Driscoll thinks bully to his people, we can say please stop. But when he actually bullies people, we can step in and say you will stop now!
I don't think this is a theological issue. I think it is a pathological one. Not just for Driscoll and Jones, but for the entire church.
If we would be healed, our theology would take care of itself.
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So I would just like to interject again.
There are all kinds of apologies, from clear ones, to qualified ones, to pretend ones. We’ve seen all of them here.
My hope is, as this conversation continues to richly unfold, that the qualifiers and pretenders will come back with an amended version of their comments.
I believe that light illumines truth until it is impossible to deny it. Keep shining your light! Eventually everything will become plain. I’m confident of this.
I also want to express my deepest respect and admiration for those who have found their courage to speak. Your intellectual, spiritual, social and emotional intelligence is profound. It has increased my assurance that people can accomplish the impossible with words.
I’m changed.
Danica and John, very well said. Julie, you continue to be awesome. Back to Danica with regard to thorn bushes—I will say that once in a while they can be used to great effect. But knowing how and when to plant them is invaluable, after having cleared several out this year that were not well-planted by a previous homeowner. What is true in real life is also true in metaphor and sometimes getting rid of them and planting something else in their place is the only way.
Btw Julie, keep it up. You’ve got support from us here and if you need anything there’s lots of us living in your the twin cities too. s_paul7@mac.com if for some reason you ever need any help or just a cup of coffee k?
Boy, am I ever slow.
Just went to see what the hell JoPa is . . . for other outsiders, it’s Tony JOnes + Doug PAgitt. JOPA!
Yikes. Are these guys seriously still out there asking people to pay them for their deep spiritual guidance?
Mind, boggled.
Hahahahahahahaha that’s the worst “apology” I’ve ever heard. What a joke. Way to spit in the face of the abused in the name of protecting ones financial and power holdings. Way to be different Brian.