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What came first? The chicken or the egg? What came first? The thug or the theology? I read Tony Jones' thoughts on Mark Driscoll.
Jones has always admired Driscoll, maybe envies him a little, wants the best for him, believes he can be redeemed, and suggests that things can be restored.
What I found most interesting though is that Jones believes the problem with Driscoll is theological.
That is, did Driscoll become the focus of concern because of his theology? Or was it because of his behavior?
I'm concerned that Jones' post reflects the refusal of the church to understand spiritual abuse. It neglects the pathology of its abusive leaders. I don't think this is being fair to the victims or the perpetrators of spiritual abuse. People are victims of not just a bad theology, but a pathological cruelty.
I don't think Driscoll's theology made this happen. Driscoll "embraced" his toxic version of theology because it aligned with his moral compass. It fit his personality. It worked for him to achieve his goals. Then it manifested the worst in him. Then he continued to develop his toxic theology in order to make more room for his pathological behavior. Mars Hill Church too.
Jones' sentence, "It could have happened to any of us." is true, because I believe we all participate in this dynamic. Theology is our creation. It is a reflection of our drives and desires.
Then, not satisfied to only be the product of our drives and desires, it also becomes the producer of them. Theology is a vicious cycle of our desperate need to understand and control our universe.
Step into this cycle at any point and you can see that we are both the root and fruit of our theology and pathology.
And yes, it spins out of control by manifesting itself in toxic, controlling, and abusive behavior. Nothing can be done about bad theology because of free thought and speech.
But we can do something when this manifests itself in bad behavior. Cruel theology is a nuisance. Cruel behavior is unacceptable.
When Driscoll thinks bully to his people, we can say please stop. But when he actually bullies people, we can step in and say you will stop now!
I don't think this is a theological issue. I think it is a pathological one. Not just for Driscoll and Jones, but for the entire church.
If we would be healed, our theology would take care of itself.
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Great quote Bill. I know this first hand and personally.
This quote fromhttp://cl.ly/2r3W2G2i2813 the just published Forbes article on Mark Driscoll seems so appropriate for both EV and Mars Hill.
“Personality cults end badly, because anyone objective finds themselves mauled by loyalists trying to hold the cult together.”
“One of the things I highly value, and I wish the church would, is mutual passion for truth and the well-being of all people, rather than its own security or agenda. The comments on this post are an indication to me that voices have been silenced, which builds up enormous pressure in the silenced, and once they find a venue where they can speak their minds, they do. I’m glad this can happen here. My hope is that rather than protect ourselves we lay that aside and put the concern of all the people first. Truth, freedom and justice has to win. – "
This is exactly how I think. And one reason I can no longer attend “church”. It is too fake. And no more listening to anyone who says it is sin to speak negative truths out loud in public.. Our Lord loves truth, transparency and justice.
“I know that because nakedpastor holds no allegiances to any certain groups or individuals, it can be very annoying to some who would like to silence the voices of dissent and victims.”
Now you are talking my language..
“I apologize for my Irish coming out but that was 6 years in the making and there is nothing I loathe more than a fraud parading under the banner of “all peace love and kindness” while twisting the knife in someone’s back… – See more at: http://www.nakedpastor.ehermitsinc.com/2014/09/tony-jones-on-mark-driscoll-what-came-first-the-thug-or-the-theology/#sthash.AYAFUGZ6.dpuf -”
You don’t have to apologize to me. More of this sort of TRUTH needs to happen. I am with you on hating the fraud parade. I live with it every day, too. “Great men of God” who do evil behind the scenes and then blame the very people they have trampled on.
You know what is the worst part? They do their evil in the “Name of Jesus”. I would not want to be them.“Spiritual wife”? That is barf worthy.
Sounds very “Mormonish” to me.