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            This drawing is inspired by the Ouroboros Snake... of the snake eating its own tail.
What came first? The chicken or the egg? What came first? The thug or the theology? I read Tony Jones' thoughts on Mark Driscoll.
Jones has always admired Driscoll, maybe envies him a little, wants the best for him, believes he can be redeemed, and suggests that things can be restored.
What I found most interesting though is that Jones believes the problem with Driscoll is theological.
That is, did Driscoll become the focus of concern because of his theology? Or was it because of his behavior?
I'm concerned that Jones' post reflects the refusal of the church to understand spiritual abuse. It neglects the pathology of its abusive leaders. I don't think this is being fair to the victims or the perpetrators of spiritual abuse. People are victims of not just a bad theology, but a pathological cruelty.
I don't think Driscoll's theology made this happen. Driscoll "embraced" his toxic version of theology because it aligned with his moral compass. It fit his personality. It worked for him to achieve his goals. Then it manifested the worst in him. Then he continued to develop his toxic theology in order to make more room for his pathological behavior. Mars Hill Church too.
Jones' sentence, "It could have happened to any of us." is true, because I believe we all participate in this dynamic. Theology is our creation. It is a reflection of our drives and desires.
Then, not satisfied to only be the product of our drives and desires, it also becomes the producer of them. Theology is a vicious cycle of our desperate need to understand and control our universe.
Step into this cycle at any point and you can see that we are both the root and fruit of our theology and pathology.
And yes, it spins out of control by manifesting itself in toxic, controlling, and abusive behavior. Nothing can be done about bad theology because of free thought and speech.
But we can do something when this manifests itself in bad behavior. Cruel theology is a nuisance. Cruel behavior is unacceptable.
When Driscoll thinks bully to his people, we can say please stop. But when he actually bullies people, we can step in and say you will stop now!
I don't think this is a theological issue. I think it is a pathological one. Not just for Driscoll and Jones, but for the entire church.
If we would be healed, our theology would take care of itself.
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And not to drive traffic to my blog but do understand I’ve been responding to this particular crap since January of 2010 http://kinnon.tv/2010/01/heres-a-thought.html Here’s A Thought . Jason Coker’s comment is particularly apropos but please make a point of reading the vitriol from the EV males who felt one of their leaders was being attacked — with zero compassion for Julie.
There is a myth that what was Emergent Village was fully egalitarian and pro-women. What happened to Julie — the gaslightingⁱ, the disinformation campaign, the abject nonsense of legal marriage vs spiritual marriage — with the full participation of key EV leaders, strongly states the converse.
What was important was protecting the publishing and conference markets for EV as simply a part of the Christian Industrial Complex — and it mattered not who got trampled in the process. Julie and her three children were thrown under the EV bus, along with others.
ⁱGaslighting: manipulate (someone) by psychological means into questioning their own sanity: in the first episode, Karen Valentine is being gaslighted by her husband.[from the storyline of the movie Gaslight (1944), in which a man psychologicallymanipulates his wife into believing that she is going insane.]
Danica, I’m surprised that Buzzfeed worded the headline like that, as quite often “question” headlines often have a no answer. Sadly, so long as men and women revere Sam Harris, Penn Gilette, Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins as models for atheism, and so long as men keep being told that they are superior, these issues will continue
@Julie- Wow. Just wow. I’m glad you’re no longer afraid and I’m glad you’re speaking up and saying what happened.
As for threatening to not be able to support the kids if you talk? That’s just Grade A manipulative victim blaming. I guess that’s something else a “legal wife” is entitled to. Also being assaulted. I guess we should hope, for his spiritual wife’s sake, that they are never legally entangled.
I know that because nakedpastor holds no allegiances to any certain groups or individuals, it can be very annoying to some who would like to silence the voices of dissent and victims. Again, I appreciate the vulnerability exhibited through the amazing courage and strength of the commenters here.