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This drawing is inspired by the Ouroboros Snake... of the snake eating its own tail.
What came first? The chicken or the egg? What came first? The thug or the theology? I read Tony Jones' thoughts on Mark Driscoll.
Jones has always admired Driscoll, maybe envies him a little, wants the best for him, believes he can be redeemed, and suggests that things can be restored.
What I found most interesting though is that Jones believes the problem with Driscoll is theological.
That is, did Driscoll become the focus of concern because of his theology? Or was it because of his behavior?
I'm concerned that Jones' post reflects the refusal of the church to understand spiritual abuse. It neglects the pathology of its abusive leaders. I don't think this is being fair to the victims or the perpetrators of spiritual abuse. People are victims of not just a bad theology, but a pathological cruelty.
I don't think Driscoll's theology made this happen. Driscoll "embraced" his toxic version of theology because it aligned with his moral compass. It fit his personality. It worked for him to achieve his goals. Then it manifested the worst in him. Then he continued to develop his toxic theology in order to make more room for his pathological behavior. Mars Hill Church too.
Jones' sentence, "It could have happened to any of us." is true, because I believe we all participate in this dynamic. Theology is our creation. It is a reflection of our drives and desires.
Then, not satisfied to only be the product of our drives and desires, it also becomes the producer of them. Theology is a vicious cycle of our desperate need to understand and control our universe.
Step into this cycle at any point and you can see that we are both the root and fruit of our theology and pathology.
And yes, it spins out of control by manifesting itself in toxic, controlling, and abusive behavior. Nothing can be done about bad theology because of free thought and speech.
But we can do something when this manifests itself in bad behavior. Cruel theology is a nuisance. Cruel behavior is unacceptable.
When Driscoll thinks bully to his people, we can say please stop. But when he actually bullies people, we can step in and say you will stop now!
I don't think this is a theological issue. I think it is a pathological one. Not just for Driscoll and Jones, but for the entire church.
If we would be healed, our theology would take care of itself.
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Actually I prefer Philosophical Pastor’s response more than mine! :)
AnImpartialObserver… my ass. As I read your lengthy deposition-style post I felt like vomiting. What royal “we” are you referring to who would so “appreciate” Julie getting on the defensive and offering fact-check details ? Good grief. I get that all are welcome here, so whatever….but I wouldn’t trust you with my phone number.
You sound anything but impartial, Animpartialobserver. Perhaps if you reveal who you actually are, rather than pretend impartiality, your questions might be worth a response.
“Living separately” metaphorically because his ridiculous travel as a minor celebrity xian speaker author. We were never separated. He was police escorted out before school 2008. Is this Courtney? Carla? See, what I DO know is that he is very good at getting others to do things for him while sitting back and seeming blameless. I will go over each line item for you but I need time to answer each and every question. I’m afraid your un-impartial is showing.
Impartial? David Hayward has the discernment letter and all supporting evidences. This comment section doesn’t take attachments. You sound like you don’t believe me or that I have lied in some way. That is perfectly fine with me because I know that I have not. The people I respect and care about have been given copies of supporting evidences. Since you are not even willing to introduce yourself as a real person, I distrust your probes. My instincts have become pretty good.